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Episode 7: Why strategy is more important than doing with Tina Tower

February 14, 2022

Entrepreneurship to every business owner means a continued need to upskill, educate, reinvent ourselves and grow as our business evolves through the years. In today’s episode, I chat with multiple 7 figure business owner, business coach, strategist, podcast host and absolute powerhouse vision in the world of business, Tina Tower.

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Tina Tower’s Bio

Between myself from Adelaide, South Australia and my wildly inspiring guests from across the world, I’m so excited to discuss all things social media and marketing with you. I believe in you. So let’s get started. Introducing today’s guest, a powerhouse and absolute vision in business, Tina Tower. Tina has captured attention with her raw and real approach to building business. Tina is not afraid to share her failures as well as her successes and is an example of what happens when you define what you want in life and go after it with all you’ve got.

Like some people find religion, Tina found personal development, which led her to go to start investing in property at 18, starting her business at 20, getting married and having two children, graduating from the University of Sydney, and building and selling multiple businesses, including a national franchise system before her 34th birthday. Tina knows how to leverage her skills and how to stick it out when faced with the stumbling blocks that we all run into on the road to success.

Tina has been celebrated in the Australian business community, winning the Australian Telstra Young Business Woman of the Year in 2014 and being the 2017 Entrepreneur in Residence for Australia’s largest business women’s group Business Checks, as well as being featured on Sky Business, The Huffington Post, and The Financial Review. What’s really impressive is Tina took a year off in 2018 to travel the world, visiting 28 countries with her husband and two sons, and found the love of online business.

Being a true entrepreneur, she runs multiple businesses and coaches others to do the same as a business strategist with her online business program Scale UP, Laptop Life, and Her Empire Builder. Tina is the host of Her Empire Builder Podcast and the author of One LIfe: How to Have the Life of Your Dreams.

Transcription

Hayley Osborne:

A very big warm welcome to the podcast, Hello Tina.

Tina Tower:

Hello, Hayley. So great to be here. I’m very excited.

Hayley Osborne:

I am so excited to have you join me today. I’ve just read out your stellar bio and also described you as an absolute powerhouse vision in the world of business.

Tina Tower:

I’ll take it.

Hayley Osborne:

In your words, obviously, I would love you to do an intro into who you are and what you do.

Tina Tower:

Oh, who I am? Who I am? Isn’t that the existential question? I’m a mama, and I’m obsessed with business. I love education. I love growth, and I’m just here for a good time. And that is really what my whole life has been about, is doing different things that can add value to the world, make a big impact, and grow in doing that. Now what I do is I work with women to package their expertise into online programs and then make a big impact in their own right, and be able to build that with content marketing and personal branding.

Hayley Osborne:

Amazing. And it’s been quite a journey and transformation for you. You created and franchised your business before you were 33 years old. At the time, this is obviously something that was near and dear to you, which I’m sure a lot of our listeners can relate to, but obviously you’re not doing that now. How did you know enough was enough? What was that point?

Tina Tower:

Yeah, it wasn’t… Look, I’ve been a goal-setter since a really young age. I went to my first Anthony Robbins seminar when I was like 15.

Hayley Osborne:

Oh my goodness!

Tina Tower:

Yeah. I was I think in some ways how people find religion, I found personal development, and I was like…. When he was there and he was talking about this concept of being able to just design your own life, whatever you want, you can achieve it. I was in the audience going, “Hells to the yeah. That’s what I’m going for,” and I kind of sprinted through my twenties in doing that. I worked very hard and probably to my detriment, I think. I mean, I achieved a lot of stuff, but I was really burnt out. I just went really hard and really fast.

Tina Tower:

I was so clung to the end result of the goal when I started my franchise, that I wanted to have 100 different locations around Australia and then have international expansion. And I kind of missed the signs early on that it was getting too hard. You have these dreams, but sometimes once the dream comes true, you go, “Oh, hang on. Get me a new dream.” I got to the point where it turned more of a nightmare than a dream, and I had to get out. It was certainly nothing quick or flippant about it.

Tina Tower:

It was just it got to the stage where I was no longer loving life and knew that I wanted to live a life full of joy, and so I had to change direction.

Hayley Osborne:

Is that the point where you decided to take your family away for you? Was that the transition? You just opted out, pulled the pin, and left?

Tina Tower:

Yeah. Talk about a midlife crisis, right?

Hayley Osborne:

Not mid your life either.

Tina Tower:

No, I hope not. But when I look back on it, it does feel that way, but no. My husband and I, we’ve always been travelers the whole life. Like since we’ve been together, we’ve been together since I was 18 years old, so all my adult life. And we’ve gone overseas like two or three times a year. And even when we had kids, we would take them away for a month at a time, a couple of times a year. We’ve always been big travelers and always had this kind of pie in the sky dream to travel the world.

Tina Tower:

When I started franchising, we kind of kissed to that goodbye and going, “You know what? It’s just not going to be on the cards for us. We’ve got a business that’s really demanding and not going to be able to do it.” When I exited, I was like, “Oh my god, this is our sweet spot.” My kids are late primary school. They can do everything, but they’re still young enough that they will hang out with us all the time. This is our time. Yeah, I kind of had this moment and we just went nuts with it and we sold everything.

Tina Tower:

We sold our house, our cars, out staff, like everything, and just had these suitcases and just walked out and went around the world.

Hayley Osborne:

That’s amazing. And I’m sure a lot of listeners that are listening have those dreams, but are too afraid to take the risk. Was there a moment where there was hesitation?

Tina Tower:

Of course.

Hayley Osborne:

How do you do with that?

Tina Tower:

Yeah.

Hayley Osborne:

Being scared?

Tina Tower:

Yeah, of course. I mean, the biggest thing for me, I guess, was I’d put so much emphasis on my career and building my business, and then I was left… I still always remember the day when I sold my business and I had to hand in my computer, my phone, my email address that I’d had for 15 years, my phone number I’d have, like all of that and just leave it on the table and walk out. I’d been running a business that had 35 locations around the country, 120 staff. Very demanding. And then the next day, nothing. Just nothing.

Tina Tower:

No one knew where I was. No one could contact me. I wasn’t needed for anything. It was just this massive void space, and that in itself was very scary. Part of why we did our trip was, one, I’d worked way too much in the couple of years previously and wanted to reconnect with my kids, because I’ve been working like 10 or 12 hour days. It was just stupid. I really wanted that time before they grew up. And now they don’t remember. They don’t know that I did that, which is really good. I’ve rewritten that memory. So now they think I’m a super present mom.

Tina Tower:

I’m like, “Ssh, just don’t tell them about like 2015 to 2017. They’ll never know.” I think a big part of the fear for me and for a lot of people looking at like traveling around Australia or traveling around the world is going, if I leave, how will I start that back up again? We’ll have to start from scratch, and I’ll lose all my contacts. The most interesting part was we were gone a year, and for 90 days I dropped completely off grid. No social media. No phone. No technology. No nothing. And no one noticed or cared.

Hayley Osborne:

Amazing.

Tina Tower:

No one.

Hayley Osborne:

That’s very, very liberating.

Tina Tower:

Yeah. Yeah. So now it’s like, I have no fear over going… I often will switch my phone off on a Friday and not look at it again until the Monday. No one notices. Yeah, it’s great.

Hayley Osborne:

I mean, obviously that would be a dream of mine to take children and drop out for a while and have no one notice and still keep a great momentum in business kind.

Tina Tower:

Yeah, completely.

Hayley Osborne:

It’s nice to see successful women with a family doing those things and running a business at the same time.

Tina Tower:

We don’t get that time back. I mean, that’s the thing. I had my business for four years before I had kids. And then when they came along, obviously it’s a bit of a handbrake and a change of direction in doing that. But up until they were about five, I kept it really managed in kind of staged growth. I always just wanted to grow up, get married, have babies. That was like my number one goal. And then my husband put the kibosh on me after we had two. He’s like, “I’m done. That’s enough,” and I’m thinking I’m going to have four or five kids.

Tina Tower:

I’m going, “Well, what am I going to do with my time?” And that’s really how I escalated into business was I was like, “Two kids is a piece of cake. What am I supposed to do with all my time now?” I blame him for that.

Hayley Osborne:

When you were away, that was a transition moment to move into creating digital courses and working online and from your laptop creating basically what you have now.

Tina Tower:

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Hayley Osborne:

That’s totally amazing. Tell me a little bit about how you started, because I know that-there’ll be product based businesses, as well as service-based businesses listening to this story, and they probably want to know what are your key, I guess, tips and tricks on, I mean, just getting started.

Tina Tower:

Yeah, yeah. I’m writing a book on it right now actually.

Hayley Osborne:

I can’t wait.

Tina Tower:

I’ve only just like in the last week being allowed to say the name. It’s called Million Dollar Micro-Business and it’s all about how to package your expertise into a seven-figure online course business. I’m very excited about that. It’s coming out in July, 2021.

Hayley Osborne:

Amazing.

Tina Tower:

I’m very excited. This is all top of mind. So I could talk to you about this for hours, but I’ll just give you the cliff notes.

Tina Tower:

To me, I mean, I do think… Back in the day, I’ve been in business now for nearly 17 years, so a long time, and it used to be in my first decade everyone said, “Everyone’s got a book in them,” and now I’m like, I love books. Love books, but I’m kind of like, you know what? Everyone’s got an online course in them. You need to package your expertise into doing that, because it’s such a beautiful revenue stream to have to compliment your product-based business or your service-based business or to just make it your full business.

Tina Tower:

For me, how I got started was quite accidental. When I sold my last business, I didn’t know who I wanted to be when I grew up. I’d been doing that since I felt like I was a kid, but I was doing a lot of business coaching. I had a lot of people asked that wanted to scale their service-based businesses for private coaching. I started doing that just because, well, I didn’t know what to do with my time, I was bored without it, and found I absolutely loved it. Some people don’t love that one-on-one connection and that coaching, but I love it.

Tina Tower:

I love getting to really learn about people’s own psychology and getting that beautiful connection that you get with someone on an individual basis and you know everything about them and all their hopes and dreams and secrets and all the things, which I really, really enjoy. But I was doing that and I found that one call after another I was repeating a lot of the similar things. Coaching is really expensive. It’s quite a hefty financial investment.

Tina Tower:

I’m going, “I’m spending this time with these people paying me a thousand dollars an hour and I’m saying the same things.” I got all the repeatable stuff and put it into an online course, so that I could direct them to that. And then our one-on-one time together, we could spend on like this specific pain points. That’s how I really started. And then a lot of them were going, “I love this whole online course sort of format. Maybe I should do this for mine too. Can you show me how to do that?” And then it just kind of grew from there.

Tina Tower:

I’ve always had the philosophy in business and give the people what they want. If people were coming to me or going, “Can I have this? Can you show me how to do this?” I’m like, yes. Yes, I can. And kind of experimented with a whole heap of things in that first two years and now have really paired it all back now that I’ve kind of found my lane.

Hayley Osborne:

It’s funny, isn’t it? Because you don’t know what you don’t know starting out, and you’ve got to walk the path to be able to see where the path takes you. Which even myself in business, I had no idea I’d be doing what I’m doing now two and a half years ago when I started. It’s just really exciting, and it goes to show, just start. Just get started.

Tina Tower:

Yes. It’s all just one big giant curious experiment.

Hayley Osborne:

Yeah. You’ve got your new book coming out. Let’s have a chat about your current book that is out called One Life. And in that, you shared some absolutely amazing stories and also not so amazing stories about your journey and your life growing up. But I really love how you share your planning for greatness step-by-step, which I have highlighted in the book going, “This is how I need to work.” Are those steps something that you now incorporate into everything you sort of set out to achieve?

Hayley Osborne:

What would be your top recommendations for our listeners to start planning their dream projects or dream life?

Tina Tower:

Yes. I think the actual taking the step to actually plan how you’re going to get your dreams that you want is totally 100% vital. I talked to people all the time. They go, “I’ve got the goal for this, I’ve got the goal for that, and I’m just going to manifest it and dream it.” And I go, “How are you going to get there and when?” It’s too much. We need manifestation. We absolutely need to be able to do that, but you also need the tangible steps to back that up.

Tina Tower:

It’s a combination of having really pragmatic approach and having the kind of woo-woo bind beautifully together in synergy. I think to get started, and the process that I follow is always I’ll create the dream that I’ve got and then break that down into tangible action steps. I go, “Okay. If that’s what I want to have at the end of the year.” One of my goals for this year, I run Her Empire Builder, which is a mastermind for course creating women. I want to have a hundred members in that by the end of the year, and then we close that off and it’s shut.

Tina Tower:

That’s kind of the end goal. For that, obviously there’s a ton of steps that need to be done with that. I can look at launches and go, “Okay, we just got to reach that a hundred.” But if I haven’t done all of those minuscule things in between, it’s just not going to work and we’re going to be perpetually disappointed about our performance. I get all of that and I break it down into every single micro step that needs to be taken, and then I get out in the calendar and I allocate the dates for that.

Tina Tower:

By doing that, I know that one of the things is I have to go live every week to be able to build that community and that support. But if that’s not allocated into the calendar, we lead busy lives and I’m going to get to the end of the week and go, “Oh crap. I forgot to go live. I didn’t get time to do that.” And there’s like a hundred things like that. That if we don’t schedule them, they don’t happen. And then those dreams, we’re just going to fall short.

Hayley Osborne:

And two weeks later, you still haven’t done it. And then in my play date, it’s still not done, and then you’re like, “Oh my God, I’ve got 10 months to go.”

Tina Tower:

And then it all gets whelming because then you’re like, “Oh my God, there’s 50,000 things. How am I ever going to do it?” If you’re wondering how you’re going to do it, make a plan. Put it in there. There’s a lot of safety and comfort in having a really well laid plan. Nothing ever goes to plan. That’s kind of my caveat. But if you get to 80% of the perfect plan that you’ve laid out, you’re going to be leap years ahead than if you just tried to wing it.

Hayley Osborne:

Absolutely. I completely agree. Another massive takeaway I have from fangirling you is you say, don’t mistake being busy with productive. How do you stop yourself from getting caught on the hamster wheel of business? Because that’s a big one, even for me. It’s always a challenge, and I’m sure it is for so many other business owners.

Tina Tower:

It is a challenge, especially if you love your work. Work is my happy place. It’s what I’m good at. I’ve done a lot of work with a psychologist and trying to get over… My whole self-worth is drawn from my performance in work, which is not… I mean, it’s helpful, but it’s not healthy in some ways. I’ve got to be really conscious about clocking on and clocking off and knowing what I’ve done is enough, and I need to step away and get creative.

Tina Tower:

Because if we overwork all the time, you’re actually getting less done because your mind’s too busy and you’ve lost your creativity, and you’ve lost your big picture thinking, and all of that sort of thing. I have a beautiful property I live on, two and a half acres, and I have an organic garden that I look after and an orchard.

Tina Tower:

I have what I call my ledge lounge, which is no work allowed, and there’s a reading chair in there and I’m learning the piano, and I do art, and all different things to kind of get away from work and stimulate my brain, because my kids are now entering their teenage years and they don’t want play with me all the time. I have to have other things to be able to do in that time. But then it’s also looking at the time that we do spend working, making sure that it’s productive time that’s going to move the needle.

Tina Tower:

So a lot of the time I can talk to people and I’m like, “What have you done today?” And they’ve been flat out sprinting all day long, but all of the things that they’ve done aren’t actually things that are going to add to the bottom line of the business or add value to their customers. Sometimes because we want to avoid the things that are going to push us outside of our comfort zone, we can be very busy doing all of the other things that take us away from doing that one big rock.

Tina Tower:

That we know if we do it, it’s going to make a difference, but it’s scary as shit. So we just kind of ignore it by being really busy. That’s where that whole eat the frog sort of saying comes home, and it’s looking at all the things we’ve got to do and going, “Okay, what is the thing that’s going to make the biggest impact in business? And that’s the thing that we do.” Because a lot of the things that we’re busy with, whether we do them, whether we don’t do them, no one’s going to notice.

Hayley Osborne:

Yeah. And I’ve seen you’ve got the best office space.

Tina Tower:

I do.

Hayley Osborne:

Is that Casa Rosada.

Tina Tower:

I actually have… Because we have our property. There’s a three bedroom cottage on it that I’ve made into my office and we painted it pink.

Hayley Osborne:

Love it. I’ve seen that on Instagram. It’s gorgeous. And your rose gold letters out the front, it just… I guess that also helps you to separate home and work. Because a lot of business owners, including myself, I work from home, and there is separation that actually happens between work and… I don’t have a separate room detached from the house, but I do have certain things that I put into my day that separate the two, like the bed has to be made, certain things have to be done, I put my diffuser on.

Hayley Osborne:

There’s a routine. I feel like in business you have to separate the two, otherwise you go crazy.

Tina Tower:

Well, it is hard otherwise. I mean, I can say that now. I didn’t always have a three-bedroom cottage on my lovely property to work from. I’m very lucky now that I have a very successful business that I can have a beautiful home and have all of these things that enable higher performance. But at the beginning, I mean, for years we lived in a two-bedroom granny flat when I started franchising and $200 a week to spend on groceries. It was just awful. And for that, you work wherever you can in between doing what you got to do.

Tina Tower:

I mean, one of my favorite sayings is from Oprah that says, “Do what you’ve got to do until you can do what you want to do.”

Hayley Osborne:

Absolutely.

Tina Tower:

Often when we’re starting out, we can begrudge that. People could see how I work now and go, “Well, I can’t do what she does. She’s got a freaking…” I mean, sorry. Are we allowed to swear?

Hayley Osborne:

Yeah. I wondered about that actually when I was starting off. I was like, I drop a few. I’m just going to mark this one as explicit.

Tina Tower:

In context to accentuate the…

Hayley Osborne:

Conversation.

Tina Tower:

People could see what I’ve got and go, “She’s got this amazing setup. How am I going to do what she’s done when I don’t have all of these different things and all of these tools and all of these resources?” No one does when they’re starting out. You do the things that you’ve got to do to get to where you want to go.

Hayley Osborne:

You have a really aspirational story. I think that for those that want to know more about you, they should definitely get your book and have a read, because I feel like there’s so many learnings at so many levels that can propel you to live your best life.

Tina Tower:

Yeah.

Hayley Osborne:

In saying that too, is there one thing or one person that’s been the most influential across your business journey? Could you pluck out one or many?

Tina Tower:

Many. I mean, I spend a small fortune on education. I’d be over a million dollars that I’ve spent in education for myself in business, which could make you want to fall off your chair.

Hayley Osborne:

Business coaching, courses.

Tina Tower:

Everything.

Hayley Osborne:

Right.

Tina Tower:

I mean, just in this last year alone, I have probably bought somewhere between five and 10 short courses. I’m a part of two different masterminds, and I have a private business coach. So that alone now I spend somewhere between 80 and 100,000 a year on education, because I’m playing a bigger game and I’m moving up, and that’s always moved up along. I got a business coach as soon as I started business and have pretty much cycled the whole way through that 16 years.

Tina Tower:

Every two years, I kind of learn everything that I can from that person, and then it’s time to level up and get someone with that next kind of expertise that I needed up there. When I had the franchise, obviously knew nothing about franchising. I put together a board of advisors. It’s like having four private business coaches, which is so expensive, but amazing to be able to sit down once a week, have a table of people and go, “Okay, this is the situation I’m in. This is what I want to do. What do you think?” And get the best advice from all of these experienced people.

Tina Tower:

I was tempted to say, I’ve been lucky enough to have that, but no, I have purchased and always valued that. The years when we started like really going serious with business and leveling up, so I invested all the profits back into it. I earned like $24,000 and I spent $30,000 on courses and coaches, because I’ve always thought it’s essential to be able to… We don’t know what we don’t know, and it’s so beautiful to sit down with someone. When I started online courses and go, “Okay, I’m hearing all about these launches. Tell me, what is a launch? How do I to this?”

Hayley Osborne:

Yes, that’s right.

Tina Tower:

Someone go, “All right. You need to do this, this, this, this. If you do this, this is what it’ll look like. If you do this, this is what it’ll look like. If you don’t do this, this is what’s likely to happen.” And I go, “Okay, sweet.” Then I talked to somebody else who gives me a different perspective, and then you can kind of get all your different perspectives and then craft it together and find your own flavor, but kind of shortcut the success by getting that beautiful advice from people who’ve done it before.

Hayley Osborne:

Yeah. It’s really great to actually know as well that over your years of progress, you have invested. Because I feel like there’s a lot of people out there in business that are really scared to invest in their business. Just from reading and listening to a lot of different podcasts, when you do make that investment, you’re propelling time. And then when there’s no investment or support there, you kind of plateau. Have you found that to happen, or you’re very mindful of, “I need to do this to have work.”

Tina Tower:

I’ve had times where I’m like, I want to get out of growth stage and I just wanted to consciously coast for a bit. Because there’s different stages where you’re like… I think, I go really well throughout business in a series of sprints and rests. If we just keep sprinting the whole time, I’m also not a marathon runner. I don’t like slow and steady. I like to kind of go at it with a bang and then, boom, up you go, and then get used to that new level and go. Because what got you your first 100,000 in business won’t get you to half a million.

Tina Tower:

And then what got you to half a million won’t get you to a million. And then the business that you operate in a million is very different to when you want to operate at five million a year. It’s getting to each of those levels as quickly as possible and going, “Okay, what team do I have to have in place? What systems do I have to have in place? How do I get a handle on this?” And then I get the next person to then sprint me to that next level. That’s how it’s worked for me, and then I need to rest and recover from that.

Hayley Osborne:

That’s a really great way to describe it as well. Thank you. Awesome. Okay. Now, I have a couple of more questions for you. What’s the number one piece of advice you’d give to business owners to springboard their 2021? Obviously 2020 was a year where we were thrown curve balls. I did hear that you had a retreat in Palm Springs and had to cancel everything. What a nightmare! Your children are here. You’re in the States and trying to do all these things. And then [crosstalk 00:27:35] I know. Crazy times last year.

Hayley Osborne:

This year I feel like business owners and people in general are more now accustomed to the digital world. I don’t know. What advice can you give for 2021?

Tina Tower:

I think for anybody in business, you’ve just got to do the things that you know you need to do to get to where you want to go. Like you mentioned before, it can be filled with fear to get a coach, but even not with coaching. A lot of the time when I work with people, it’s not that they don’t know. A lot of people have read all the books and done the courses and know it, but they’re not doing the things. It needs massive action. You need to match your goals with action and implementation.

Tina Tower:

And that can often involve letting go of the current belief system that we’ve got or our perception of self and stepping way out of our comfort zone and doing the things. But if your goal, for example, I’m hearing a lot of people talk about it lately is a million dollar business, because it’s just a nice round number. You want to run a million dollar business. It’s totally achievable. It’s not that hard. It just takes a lot of action and doing the right amount of action.

Tina Tower:

You’ve got to really look at that and go, “All right, if my business was doing a million dollars,” or look at people that are doing that, how do they act? What are the things that they do? What are the activity? What are they spending their time on? How are they thinking? And then do that.

Hayley Osborne:

Yeah, amazing. What’s in store for Tina Tower for this fabulous year of 2021?

Tina Tower:

[Inaudible 00:29:22] Because it was my birthday a couple of days ago as well.

Hayley Osborne:

Oh, happy birthday!

Tina Tower:

Thanks. I always get really introspective at that sort of time.

Hayley Osborne:

The tick over.

Tina Tower:

Yeah, the tick over. I was talking to my husband about it and going, I feel very grounded. I just turned 37 and I’ve always been in a hurry to get to where I’m going. And it’s the first time that I’ve kind of… In our 18 years together, we’ve moved 11 times, and we moved into our home four months ago now. This is it. This is where we’re going to stay. We’ve never had a home where we’ve thought this is ours now.

Hayley Osborne:

Final.

Tina Tower:

Yeah. Put in some roots. I’m hoping for a really calm, conscious growth year. I’m as ambitious as all get up. I’m a very ambitious woman. I want to do a lot of things, but for very different reasons and not in a million different directions, trying a lot of different things. I know what works. I know what works for me and my business.

Tina Tower:

A lot of that is me consciously putting blinkers on and just staying the course and not trying to do all of the other things and just going, “You know what? I’m just going to keep on keeping on,” because I know that that is where the best growth comes. And I want to earn a lot of money and do a lot of good things.

Hayley Osborne:

Amazing. They sound like wonderful things that you can absolutely achieve. This has been such a lovely, lovely chat. Thank you so much. And I just want to pre-phase this, we’re in January 2021, so this is the start of the year that we’re recording this. I look forward to your book coming up, my dear. Amazing. I will keep an eye out for that. How can people keep an eye out? And if you can tell our listeners how they can connect with you to find out more online and learn about you.

Tina Tower:

I should be very easy to find if I’ve done my job right. Tina Tower is everywhere. But let me know, if you’re listening, @Tina_Tower is what I am on Instagram.

Hayley Osborne:

Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

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